{"id":6083,"date":"2025-12-15T17:37:05","date_gmt":"2025-12-15T17:37:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/?p=6083"},"modified":"2025-12-15T17:51:25","modified_gmt":"2025-12-15T17:51:25","slug":"co-founder-michelle-rockwell-joins-the-unshakeables-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/co-founder-michelle-rockwell-joins-the-unshakeables-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Co-Founder Michelle Rockwell Joins \u201cThe Unshakeables\u201d Podcast"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>Co-Founder Michelle Rockwell Joins \u201cThe Unshakeables\u201d Podcast<\/h1>\n<h2><a href=\"http:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-6086 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Michelle Rockwell on stage at a live recording of The Unshakeables, Chase for Business podcast\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_213124735-1144x858.jpg 1144w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/h2>\n<h2>In Discussion with Ben Walter and Tino McFarland<\/h2>\n<p>Sheltered International co-founder Michelle Rockwell was a guest on the latest episode of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chase.com\/business\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Unshakeables [click here to listen]<\/a>, a Chase for Business podcast on the iHeartRadio network. She was joined by Tino McFarland, CEO of <a href=\"https:\/\/mcfarlandconstructionus.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">McFarland Construction<\/a>, for an engaging and entertaining conversation about the current challenges facing small businesses. Through her personal experiences with freight forwarding, she sheds insight on the realities of working through tariffs, how inflation affects operations, and more.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI personally thought it was a good chance to give people a feel for really what\u2019s going on out there right now,\u201d says host Ben Walter, reflecting on the interview. \u201cWe spend a lot of time [on the show] telling stories\u2026[this] was a good chance to talk about where we are as an economy.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright wp-image-6091 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi-252x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"252\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi-252x1024.jpg 252w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi-74x300.jpg 74w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi-378x1536.jpg 378w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi-504x2048.jpg 504w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/2nCDtYi.jpg 532w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 252px) 100vw, 252px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<h3>Diving into the Realities of Tariffs<\/h3>\n<p>Speaking on how <a href=\"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/supreme-court-hears-arguments-over-tariffs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent tariffs<\/a> have affected importers, Michelle characterised clients as understandably conservative and careful. \u201cThere&#8217;s a lot of uncertainty with the importers of record. We have seen business slower than normal this time of year because ultimately, the end consumer has to pay those additional costs. It&#8217;s inevitable. We try to explain and we sympathize with them. We completely understand.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd unfortunately, we&#8217;ve had those hard conversations because what happens is sometimes those things go into effect and there&#8217;s no backdating. So it doesn&#8217;t matter when it departed, those tariffs are going to take effect. And it doesn&#8217;t matter if your cargo was already on the water and you were only expecting to say pay 20% or 30%. Now tomorrow you&#8217;re going to pay 55%. And it&#8217;s hard for them to swallow. And I get it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These difficulties are strongly felt across the board, especially when it comes to the <a href=\"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">de minimis exemption<\/a>. \u201cIf you&#8217;re ordering, say clothing, it used to be that they could come into the country and there was no duty charge because the value was so little. [Importers used] a Section 321 entry and there was no duties and taxes. They can no longer do that. Now there&#8217;s a hundred-dollar duty automatically on any small package like that. Going from free to a hundred, that&#8217;s a lot, especially if you&#8217;re talking you bought a $20 dress or top whatever. It&#8217;s not worth it any longer. As a result, many clothing and textile retailers had to shut down.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-6089 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Andrew Ciccarone and Michelle Rockwell after recording The Unshakeables\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-1144x1525.jpg 1144w, https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/PXL_20251027_150808847.MP_-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a>How SiShips Succeeds as a Small Business<\/h3>\n<p>Transparency, communication, and offering white glove service are key offerings from SiShips for every client, regardless of size. \u201cThe difference is, when you call us, we&#8217;re going to pick up that telephone, and we&#8217;re going to answer you. Our clients come to us because they need a certain level of service, and that&#8217;s what they expect.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe tell [our clients] what we know. Most of the time with tariffs, we&#8217;ve heard what they&#8217;ve heard. But until it&#8217;s printed in the Federal Register for us, it&#8217;s not a fact. We&#8217;re transparent with them, because we don&#8217;t know what to tell them or how to tell them to run their business. That&#8217;s obviously up to them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m Every episode of The Unshakeables ends with the same question from Ben Walter: \u201cWhat\u2019s one piece of advice you have for aspiring or current small business owners who are trying to make it out there?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Michelle was ready with her answer from her <a href=\"https:\/\/siships.com\/blog\/sheltered-international-celebrates-our-10-year-anniversary\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">decades of experience<\/a>. \u201cYou have to partner with people who are your opposite. You&#8217;re going to have to stay positive and work hard, but you&#8217;re going to have to work together.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Listen to the Full Episode Now<\/h2>\n<p>Check out the full episode now for all of Michelle\u2019s insights, and a few laughs along the way, available on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-state-of-small-business-holding-strong-amid-changes\/id1725983618?i=1000740401539\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5WfZkbbv2ra1Q2seNwY4zb?si=f6dbc0ceae8c410e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chase.com\/business\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wherever you listen<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Co-Founder Michelle Rockwell Joins \u201cThe Unshakeables\u201d Podcast In Discussion with Ben Walter and Tino McFarland Sheltered International co-founder Michelle Rockwell was a guest on the latest episode of The Unshakeables [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":186,"featured_media":6084,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v18.5.1 - 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